You Don't Bring a Knife to a Gunfight

Nor can you fight a holy war without a religion.

Holy War

Yet the Big Brain Nietzsche Bunch remains in steadfast denial of this incontrovertible fact, as James Giuran demonstrates in his hot take on Sohrab Ahmari's righteous smackdown of David French.
Sohrab Ahmari, who previously wrote a decent takedown of the exemplar of nominative determinism Max Boot, but who I’ve otherwise never heard of before, wrote an article in First Things opposing “David Frenchism,” a “persuasion or a sensibility” that he names after the National Review writer who Bill Kristol named as the ideal #NeverTrump candidate for president.
The “Frenchist” disposition, according to Ahmari, is a nice, liberal one. It sees politics as a matter of procedure, institutions, and ‘decency’; it seeks to defend the conservative cause by appeal to the liberal logic of autonomy, and it inherits from its English nonconformist roots a “great horror … of the public power to advance the common good,” leading it to insist that political challenges be solved by the depoliticized measures of “personal renewal” and somehow-organic cultural change.
In contrast, Ahmari advocates acknowledging hostility, valuing victory above civility, and “defeating the enemy and enjoying the spoils in the form of a public square re-ordered to the common good and ultimately the Highest Good,” and blames “Frenchism” for the crushing defeat of conservatism by “the libertine and the pagan,” exemplified by… a ‘drag queen reading hour’ in a California library, for which Ahmari saw an ad in his Facebook feed.
Show me where Ahmari's wrong.

Wait. Giuran is actually going to attempt it?

Let's hear him out. Maybe he's developed better counterarguments than appeals to materialist consumerism and mad at Dad atheism.
Ahmari’s position, however, is equally untenable. Using the state to forcibly reorder the public square toward the (Christian if not specifically Catholic) “Highest Good” would require a higher level of religiosity, and, more importantly, a higher level of willingness to dispense with old American liberal principles, than can be found in America today, where only half of the population is even nominally Catholic or Evangelical, fewer than two fifths claim to go to church every week, and the single largest religious group is ‘none’. The integralist Adrian Vermeule has argued that the election of Trump demonstrates that the American political landscape can change on a dime; but that doesn’t imply it’s likely to change in that direction. It’s true that the Fifth Great Awakening, or the sixth or seventh ones, could produce mass conversions to Catholicism and usher in an integralist America, but it’s equally true that it could produce the revival of the cult of Tengri and the remythologization of the United States as the greatest steppe empire since the Yamnaya expansion. Get ahead of the curve  — buy your cowboy hats now!
Never mind. And here I had such high hopes.

Right out of the gate, Giuran misunderstands, or willingly misrepresents, Ahmari's position. It's not that he finds trannies grooming kids distasteful and wants to use state power to direct society toward the highest good--which is indeed God; fight me.

The position Ahmari carefully lays out in his original piece is that Liberal absolutization of freedom as the highest good is a one-way ticket to Clown World.

Any strategy for fixing Weimerica must start with restoring the Good to its proper place above freedom in the public zeitgeist. Anything less inevitably lands us right back in Brave New World.

Giuran hand waves Ahmari's main point away by citing polls that he claims prove America is too irreligious and liberal to ever reorient public consensus away from radical autonomy in favor of the Good. This argument has two main defects:
  1. It admits defeat from the outset. Ahmari points out that Liberalism invariably leads to Clown World. Giuran doesn't refute that conclusion. Furthermore, he asserts that Americans lack the will to give up Liberal principles. By Giuran's own logic, we're irrevocably screwed.
  2. His glib declarations of America's lack of faith just ain't true. American religiosity has dipped only slightly, and American adults are the most religious in the developed world.

But let's grant Giurn's premise. He says America isn't currently Christian enough to reorient public life toward the Good. Fine. We've got evangelizing to do. The Church started with twelve. This is gonna be easy by comparison.

Besides, dismissing a Christian reorientation of the public square because it can't happen right now is a bogus standard. No dissident movement's program could be successfully implemented right now.
The conservative debate thus far has been premised on the idea that the proper response to Trump, the proper way forward, is to simply revitalize the platform of the Moral Majority. Not only does this fail to address many of the problems facing our country today ⁠— it has little, if anything, to say about immigration, which is necessarily the most pressing issue because its effects are permanent and irreversible  —  it offers little potential for attaining true hegemony. The conflict between moralists and libertines in America predates the United States itself and is unlikely to result in a decisive victory anytime soon (in other words, it’s Lindy), and it’s sufficiently orthogonal to the main dimension of American politics that there are strains of progressivism that have evolved to accommodate both. Many progressives even oppose drag!
Giuran's charge that Christians of the Right like Ahmari advocate reviving a Moral Majority platform that fails to contend with immigration is insultingly disingenuous. It's Ahmari's nemesis David French who epitomizes the moralizing but ultimately toothless religious right of yesteryear.

It's as if Giuran forgot in the space of twelve paragraphs that Ahmari, unlike French, is determined to win.

Speaking of immigration and winning, Christian nations like Russia, Poland, Hungary, and Italy have become the envy of nationalists worldwide. So much for Christians being soft on immigration.

See, having a strong shared sense of national identity is what gives people the will to fight for their nation in the political arena. A people's religion is how they explain themselves to themselves. Strip their faith away, and the nation becomes an easy mark for globalist grifters.

What does Giuran prescribe as a more workable substitute for shared faith and common understandings of the Good?
But simply banning drag queens from California’s libraries won’t make America great again. The question of what will remains open, but here are some components of a new conservatism that will be necessary: an end to mass unskilled migration, stricter immigration controls, and an uncompromising defense of borders and the nation-state system; the establishment of policies and culture that support marriage, family formation, and homeownership; a serious drive to retake cultural hegemony from the progressives; a willingness to combat the conspiratorial demographic hatred which casts men as sub-rational pigs and whites as the nefarious, scheming villains of history; and the abandonment of the dead consensus of social conservatism and little else, in favor of a new nationalism that protects both Christian and ‘pagan’ Americans and works to preserve the civilization they have built.
Translation: "I don't have an answer, but I want to indulge in hard drugs and deviant sex in an environment populated mostly with white people. Let's somehow implement the Christian Conservative political agenda without the buzz-killing Christianity that's necessary to drive it."

And don't think I missed that sly attempt to slip "pagans", i.e. "atheists who pretend to worship trees" into the set of "people who built America".

The American nation is a Christian nation. Any attempt to say otherwise is crass historical revisionism every bit as cynical and coercive as the multicult nutbars who claim Shakespeare was a black woman.

There is one way out of Clown World; only one, and that is the Way, the Truth, and the Life.

Once again, right-wing atheists have four options:
  • Repent, and accept the Gospel of Jesus Christ.
  • LARP for an hour in the church of their choice on Sundays.
  • Shut up--seriously. You're not helping.
  • Join the Death Cult.
Choose carefully.


  1. Brian

    Great takedown of Giuran.
    TL;DR I'm mad I'll never see the trees I've planted so I won't bother even planting them.
    Ok then shut up and get out of the way

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  3. I don't know I'm pretty blackpilled on America's future and our ability to change it. Especially now, with Trump, even the Republicans are pro globo-homo. Not to mention the recent switch on the left from indifferentism to asserting a positive creed where all dissidents are bigots who need to be fired from their jobs and have the bank accounts shut down.

    The more things go on the more I think we are like ancient Israel in Egypt. Even though we're slaves (basically wage-slaves for us) we're so conformed to our pagan environment that God no longer wishes us to dwell amongst the heathens any longer. So He will harden their hearts more and more and more until we separate ourselves from them somehow. So many are unwilling to make even the most minor sacrifice of selling their home to live within walking distance of their church.

    Plus with the economic, demographic, and geo-political situations being what they are it seems to me to be a matter of time before the we get into a war with Iran or something and end up kicking off WW3, a war we have no chance of being anything other than crushed in.

    1. The writing has been on the wall that the USA is finished as a coherent geopolitical entity. But the US is not the American nation.

      Even with a clear demographic majority and the greatest wealth of resources in world history, we couldn't stop the mass murder of 50 million babies. That atrocity is just one symptom of Americans turning our backs on God. He has justly delivered us into our enemies' hands.

      Do you see that there's only one way out, and why right-wing atheists are useless at best and harmful more often than not?

  4. "The first and fiercest punishment ought to fall first on the traitor, second on the enemy. If I had but one bullet and I were faced by both an enemy and a traitor, I would let the traitor have it."

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  6. I'm going to try to word this better.

    I only have a few things to say to the writer of that piece. I'll try to make it brief.

    It's not 1993 anymore. You cannot kick it in your parent's basement smoking roach while grandpa and grandma go to Church and do the heavy lifting both at prayer and in the community. They're gone now. Mom and Dad are nearing retirement, if not already there. Screw ups they might have been, their time happened and it is about to pass.

    It's because of them and their ancestors that you were granted that comfy backyard to totally get wasted in without any neighbors robbing and murdering you in your sleep. You don't have that luxury anymore. It's gone. There is no glorious pleasure-land utopia coming if we all just magically to decide to stop looking out for our own interests and appetites and follow your made up dogma instead because you're so smrt. That might have been wicked cool as a skateboarding weed-smoking rebel teenager in 1996, but it's 2019 and you're a grown ass man. Put down the fucking crack pipe and sack up.

    It's time to grow the fuck up and stop being a manchild.

    When I was a kid I was so excited to get older and be just like the generations above me. Instead everyone decided to keep pretending they were in high school for the rest of their damn lives while the world went to shit. I think this experiment can finally be concluded as a failure.

    I apologize for my curtness. I've been thinking about this topic all day and it just hit me how pathetic things actually are. "New" atheism is well over a decade old and has utterly failed. Meanwhile the "fading" religion has thousands of years under its belt to pull from. Maybe finally learn some humility and stop being a snarky, loser gamma. There's nothing more pathetic than a middle-aged man with colored hair in baggy clothes that stinks of grass like they're still seventeen. And yet somehow we let these idiots in places of power and influence. No wonder things are shit when you still consider people like Christopher "Stalin was actually a Christian, guys!" Hitchens a titanic wit worth imitating. But he was "cool" so that's enough to throw thousands of years of tradition out, apparently.

    Sorry. Rant over.

    1. No apology necessary. Your rant was a tour de force that did indeed summarize the current crisis better than I did.

  7. That's the story my husband is trying to tell, and I'm trying to draw.